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« on: April 14, 2008, 11:16:11 pm »

How can people even think this is a problem? Last year was one of the coldest damn winters in recent history. I also think Bush, McCain, Gore, Clinton, Obama and all the rest are fools for getting on board with it. If we live by what the world wants us to do, we will be broker than we are right now.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 01:23:25 pm »

As someone living in the northern midwest I have to agree! 

It is mid-April and it is *still* cold here.  This past Sunday there was snow on the ground.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2008, 09:46:32 pm »

If anybody is watching Expedition Alaska this week on Discovery Channel, you will see the near panic these scientist have regarding Global Warming. I find it interesting that they are looking for confirmation of Global Warming and believe they have found it. Well, the temperature is indeed warmer but I think everybody will find that this is a natural cycle of the earth.

What I find interesting is that none of these scientists are explaining if this has happened before. They keep repeating that this is the WORST in forty years, etc. What about 100 years ago. Five hundred years ago.

I can't believe we are going through all of these Global Warming gyrations on a guess.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 09:58:15 am »

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE EARTH IS WARMER. IF IT WASN'T, THE GLACIERS WOULDN'T BE MELTING. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE THAT CAN HAPPEN IF WE DON'T LEARN HOW TO CONTROL HOW WE AFFECT OUR CLIMATE. WE WILL LOSE DOZENS OF SPECIES OF ANIMALS, WE WILL SEE UNBELIEVABLE FLOODING, MUCH HIGHER UV RAYS AND RAISING CROPS WILL BE NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE. WE CANNOT STAND BY AND LET OUR WORLD GO TO POT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANT BIG CARS AND TRUCKS TO DRIVE. HOW SELFISH IS THAT?
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2008, 03:03:25 pm »

You have a bunch of POP scientists with crap degrees spewing garbage so that they can get grants................... "The sky is falling"

Al Gore needs More money....................the SKKKKKY is falllllllling....................

The Arctic Council report is based on the observations and deliberations of 300 scientists from eight countries and six groups of indigenous people over the past four years. They find that the Arctic region is warming at twice the rate of the rest of the world. They further find that the sea ice that covers the Arctic Ocean is thinning, and could almost disappear in the summer months by 2100.

But University of Alabama at Huntsville climatologist John Christy, a climate expert on whom I have relied for years, makes some interesting observations about the Arctic Council's report. "If you look at the long term records, the Arctic has been as warm or warmer than it is today," says Christy. He cites temperature data from the Hadley Centre in the UK showing that from 70 degrees north latitude to the pole, the warmest years on record in the Arctic were 1937 and 1938. This area is just slightly above the Arctic Circle.

Furthermore, those same records show that the Arctic warmed twice as fast between 1917 and 1937 as it has in the past 20 years. After 1940, the Arctic saw a big cool-down and climatologists noted sea ice expanding in the northern Atlantic. Christy argues that what he calls the Great Climate Shift occurred in the late 1970s and caused another sudden warming in the Arctic. Since the late 1970s there has not been much additional warming in the region at all. In fact, on page 23, the Arctic Council Assessment offers very similar data for Arctic temperature trends from 60 degrees north latitude—the area that includes most of Alaska and essentially all of Greenland, most of Norway and Sweden, and the bulk of Russia.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/34939.html

Oops........................maybe the sky is not falling when we look at records from the past - not just base Pop science on records and computer models based on a few years. Remember the record temps in France in 2003? Breaking records that were over 140 years old...............................long before SUV's?
August 27, 2003
The heat wave in Europe started in early summer when Switzerland, situated in the heart of Europe, experienced the hottest June since recordkeeping began 140 years ago.
http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/Update27.htm

Must have been all the cows farting……………………….145 years ago………….

I know - quit confusing people with the Facts............................THE SKKKKKKKY is FALLLLLLLLLLING!!!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2008, 12:14:33 am »

SO THERE ARE SCIENTISTS THAT DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. WHAT ELSE IS NEW? BUT EVEN COMMON SENSE SAYS TO STOP SPITTING OUT SO MUCH CARBON DIOXIDE INTO THE SAME AIR WE BREATH. TREES NEED CARBON DIOXIDE HUMANS NEED OXYGEN. I WILL ERR ON THE SIDE OF CLEANER AIR AND A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 09:24:59 pm »

SO THERE ARE SCIENTISTS THAT DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. WHAT ELSE IS NEW? BUT EVEN COMMON SENSE SAYS TO STOP SPITTING OUT SO MUCH CARBON DIOXIDE INTO THE SAME AIR WE BREATH. TREES NEED CARBON DIOXIDE HUMANS NEED OXYGEN. I WILL ERR ON THE SIDE OF CLEANER AIR AND A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.
Me too - Build more Nuclear Power Plants!!! Stop burning fossil fuels in Power plants............................but until you get alternate energy sources, you are stuck with fossil fuel vehicles. OR we could ban cars and trucks - the air would get real healthy real quick - especially since most people would starve to death since they can't produce their own food...........................but that would leave plenty of clean oxygen...............
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 06:05:33 am »

Just remember...the Earth has warmed before...and it has cooled before.

Has anybody heard of the Ice Age? We still aren't in it anymore, are we? No, because the Earth warmed.

This Global Warming thing is just another way to panic the common people and keep their minds on other things besides the Government.

I have no problem respecting the environment and I certainly want to reduce and eventually eliminate our dependence on foreign energy resources. There are plenty of clean ways to get energy.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 09:00:41 pm »

If anybody is noticing, Global Warming is losing it's sexy appeal quickly. Now, the watch words are Climate Change. With all of the natural disasters that have occured, the blame will go to Climate Change which is being linked to of course Global Warming...Keep and eye out for it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2008, 11:06:03 am »

New Hope for Global Warming Deniers
By Christopher Chantrill
Why would anyone be a global warming denier?  What's the point?  You earn the scorn of Al Gore and maybe Dr. James Hansen, NASA's pre-eminent climate scientist will call for you to be put in jail.  Of fossil fuel company CEOs, Hansen recently testified to Congress:


In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature.


If Dr. Hansen turns out to be wrong about climate change should he be tried for high crimes and misdemeanors too?  Steve McIntyre and his collaborators at climateaudit.org have already found one big error in Dr. Hansen's GISS global temperature data series.  How many mistakes add up to a felony?


But things are looking up for the global warming skeptics.  First of all there is the global temperature.  After holding constant since 1998 it has dropped markedly in the last two years.  You can see the latest numbers at Dr. Roy Spencer's home page. 


Recently the Germans prudently declared a ten-year hold on non-stop global warming.  What with a flip in the Gulf Stream they realized that the numbers weren't going to look too good for the alarmists in the next few years.  "There is a long-periodic oscillation that will probably lead to a lower temperature increase than we would expect from the current trend during the next years," they wrote.  Clearly, more research is needed.


The World Bank in a "secret" report has found most of the recent increase in food prices was due to biofuels production.  Writes Aditya Chakrabortty in the lefty Guardian:


Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% - far more than previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.


Apparently, according to Chakrabortty, the World Bank refrained from publishing the report to avoid embarrassing President Bush!  The US recently issued a report blaming China and India for the food price increases and this new report "emphatically contradicts" it.  I say to heck with President Bush and the evil biofuels program that he rammed through Congress with the help of Halliburton in the teeth of opposition from sensitive, caring environmentalists and advocates for the global poor.  Let's teach President Bush a lesson and stop biofuel subsidies now!  What do you say, Senator Obama?  Here is an opportunity for real change.


But the most fascinating and encouraging news for the deniers is from Australian astrophysicists I.R.G. Wilson, B.D. Carter, and I.A. Waite.  They have developed a theory that the sunspot cycle and its intensity is driven by the gravitational relationships between the Sun and the Jovian planets Jupiter and Saturn.


The Sun wobbles a bit around the center of the Solar System. Sometimes the center of the Solar System lies outside the surface of the Sun, only 1,000 times heavier than Jupiter and 3,000 times heavier than Saturn.  All that wobbling seems to affect the behavior of the Sun.


Here is the nub of the paper, as explained by author Ian Wilson to Andrew Bolt.


It supports the contention that the level of activity on the Sun will significantly diminish sometime in the next decade and remain low for about 20 - 30 years. On each occasion that the Sun has done this in the past the World's mean temperature has dropped by ~ 1 - 2 C.


Wilson and Co. should talk to the Germans who think that the cooling will only last for 10-15 years and try to come up with a cooling consensus.  Either way, it adds up to a comfortable truth for Al Gore who can now feel virtuous about warming up the planet with his mega-mansion and his compulsive jet-travel habit.


It's all so confusing.


Liberals tell us that we mustn't develop energy resources because of the impact on the polar bear -- even though polar bear numbers are on the increase.  We shouldn't develop oil resources in ANWR because it is a pristine wilderness.  We shouldn't develop offshore oil resources because 40 years ago there was an oil spill in the Santa Barbara Channel.  Anyway there's no point in developing oil and gas resources because it won't make any difference to the price of gasoline.  Anyway we are running out of oil and gas so there isn't any point in developing any more oil and gas resources.  We shouldn't mine coal because coal creates global warming.  We shouldn't develop nuclear power because Jane Fonda once made a scary movie about it.  We should develop solar and wind power, "renewables," even though both are extremely expensive right now.  But we shouldn't build wind farms where Ted Kennedy could see the wind turbines from his window.


And now with a straight face liberals say we'll have to starve the people in order to save the planet.  Now who's in denial?


Christopher Chantrill is a frequent contributor to American Thinker. See his roadtothemiddleclass.com and usgovernmentspending.com.  His Road to the Middle Class is forthcoming.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 11:33:48 pm »


You have to remember the problem with Biofuels................................Bush and the republicans supported them so the MUST be Eviiiiiiil.......................and once again the Liberals and the leftist Media will make the grand stand to prove that ANYTHING Bush and the republicans supported - has to be for their profit and will KILL!!!! Millions all over the world (remember Clinton and the "They are going to starve the School Children!!!" routine? I do...........)...............................unless like the Global Warming Bunk, people actually open their eyes and do a little research...................


But the Left counts on sheeple listening to their lies and falling for them............over and over and over again..............THE SKY IS FALLING!!!,  THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!


But research by Mark Muller and Richard Levins of the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy reveals a rather different picture:
·20 percent of the total US corn crop is exported; two-thirds of these exports go directly to the 28 industrial OECD countries, where it is mostly used for feeding animals.
·76 percent of the corn used in the US is used for animal feed.
·Less than three-tenths of one percent of total US corn exports went to the poor Category 5 countries in 1996.
·Less than three percent of total US corn exports in 1996 went to the 24 Category 4 countries (where undernourishment affects at least 20 percent of the population).
·More US corn goes to make alcoholic beverages in the US than is exported to feed the hungry in the world's 25 most undernourished countries combined.
·About one-third of the total US soybean crop is exported; 70 percent of US soybean exports went to 28 industrial OECD countries in 1996.
·No soybeans were exported to Category 5 countries in 1996, while 17.8 million metric tons went to OECD countries.
·In 1998, a year of record-low soybean prices, the 25 most undernourished countries received less than 0.027 percent of total US soybean exports.
See "Feeding the World?" (pdf)
http://www.iatp.org/iatp/publications.cfm?accountID=258&refID=36106

"The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that more than a billion bushels of corn went unused last year [2000]." -- University of Wisconsin
http://www.news.wisc.edu/view.html?get=6810

Fuel Ethanol and Food Supply, Canadian Renewable Fuels Association -- Extensive production of ethanol from grain will not detract from Canada’s ability to feed its own citizens and supply large quantities of high-quality grains to export markets.http://www.greenfuels.org/ethafood.html


The real causes of hunger
The United Nations Development Programme says the effects of globalisation and increasing economic integration have led to the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer in nearly every way.

UN statistics provide evidence of the widening gap between rich and poor: In nine years, the income ratio between the top 20% and the bottom 20% has increased from 60:1 to 74:1. Eighty countries have less revenue than they did a decade ago. The assets of the 200 richest people exceed the combined income of 41% of the world's total population. The assets of the top three billionaires are more than the combined GNP of all least developed countries and their 600 million people. The overall consumption of the richest fifth of the world's people is 16 times that of the poorest fifth. About 840 million people are malnourished. Nearly 340 million women are not expected to survive to age 40. Nearly 160 million children are malnourished. More than 250 million children are working as child labourers.
Human Development Report 1999
http://www.undp.org/hdro/report.html
UN Human Development Report finds social inequality and poverty increasing worldwide
http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/aug1999/un-a06.shtml

Of the world's 6 billion people, 2.8 billion live on less than $2 a day, and 1.2 billion on less than $1 a day.
Global Poverty Report: Genoa G8 Summit July 2001
http://www.worldbank.org/poverty/library/G8_2001.htm
World Development Report 2000/2001: Attacking Poverty
http://www.worldbank.org/poverty/wdrpoverty/index.htm

The true picture may even be worse -- both the World Bank and the United Nations Development Programme, which produces the annual Human Development Report, have been accused of massaging the numbers on poverty.

"Global Falsehoods: How the World Bank and the UNDP Distort the Figures on Global Poverty" by Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa
http://www.transnational.org/features/chossu_worldbank.html

"World Bank dilutes report -- Agencies claim poverty document was censored" Guardian (London) September 13, 2000
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4063044,00.html

"World Bank cooks poverty statistics" by Chakravarthi Raghavan, Chief Editor of SUNS (South-North Development Monitor), Third World Network Features, August 2000
http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/homeless/2001/msg00289.html

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_food.html

Keep your minds open and check out different sources and programs (yup I even TRY to listen to the left - when I haven't eaten in a couple of hours  once in a while)........................................you might be surprised what the truth is........................
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