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Starting to wonder if women's rights have hurt or helped women

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« on: April 17, 2008, 09:36:25 pm »

I often wonder if all these women's rights have ultimately been good for anybody? I mean, beyond the human and constitutional rights that they deserve. I am referring more to the 'movement'.

I mean all these women are out there working which is fine but now, for many it isn't by choice, it is by necessity. Many of them wish to God they could be home with their children and take care of the home but they can't.

It seems they are left with much less choices in he long run.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 02:49:51 am »

I don't understand what you mean, CoolChange.  Women's rights, and the necessity to work, are two different issues, wholly unconnected.  Can you provide more examples of what would make you wonder whether the women's movement has been good for anybody?
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 09:31:24 pm »

I don't understand what you mean, CoolChange.  Women's rights, and the necessity to work, are two different issues, wholly unconnected.  Can you provide more examples of what would make you wonder whether the women's movement has been good for anybody?
They might be unconnected now, but the necessity for the woman to work was fueled largely by the movement. The movement went beyond the "right" of a woman to work, equal pay, increase of education, etc and created a culture that demanded a woman meet her career potential even while insisting they had a right to choose. True, they had the right to choose technically but as the movement evolved the cultural pressures dictated otherwise.

As people became accustomed to women working full time, they soon became accustomed and dependent on the second income. This second income also created a quality of living that was much higher than in previous generations. This higher caliber lifestyle became the expectation and definition of what a "good" life means. Society & the "movement" effectively created a void in society that could only be filled by a second income which of course had to sourced primarily through the wife.

At this point in time, it is my belief that for many women, the women's movement has come full circle and again, they effectively have no choice. However, this time it isn't that they don't have a choice to pursue a career but rather that they no longer have the choice to NOT have a career. They simply cannot afford it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 07:42:24 pm »

I think it has also caused many of them to have identity crisis too. Alot of women seem to be torn in two over what they want to be and what they have now been conditioned to think they want to be. Not all women but many for sure. men too.

It seems like everybody has to go against what they want to be in order to be accepable to somebody else.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 11:58:50 pm »

NEWSFLASH....THE WOMENS RIGHTS MOVEMENT IS ONE OF THE MOST SUPPORTIVE GROUPS AROUND WHEN IT COMES TO ENDORSING A WOMANS CHOICE TO BE A MOTHER OR STAY AT HOME WITH HER CHILDREN. THE FACT IS, THAT WOMEN DO NOT SPEND THEIR ENTIRE LIFE RAISING CHILDREN SO WHY SHOULD THEY BE FORCED TO BE A STAY AT HOME MOM, WHEN SHE DOESN'T WANT TO OR WHEN HER KIDS GROW UP?

WOMENS RIGHTS ARE RIGHTS TO CHOOSE THE PATHS OF THEIR OWN LIVES JUST AS MEN ARE ABLE TO DO.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 07:10:13 pm »

I would like to know what the women's movement does CURRENTLY that is relevent?
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 04:15:10 pm »

They push for Hillary to be President! Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 04:50:03 am »

If you want to get right down to it, there is no way for women and men to be equal unless we pretend. Men and women are different. Is there anybody who can deny that point? Each gender has strengths and weaknesses that are built in.

In order for true equality among the genders a denial has to be set into place among the minds of the public. Problem is, that within the privacy of the minds of each individual we all know that equality can never be obtained.

Even the NOW mission statement conceides that technology aids in equality because there is less and less of a need for physical labor. Just by making this statement, they are recognizing that an *aid* of some sort is needed to even it up unnaturally.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 06:21:30 am »

I would mostly agree with you. In my personal experience I rarely see women who want to be like a man. What I see is women who simply want to do what they want to do. This is really no different then men. I think a lot of problem comes in when society inluences men and women to be whatever the "ideal" man or woman is for the year. The influences are so strong that in many cases, if either sex opts to do something different than what society deems ideal, they actually feel guilty for it. I think that is a type of freedom restriction that is rarely acknowledged.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2008, 09:31:04 pm »

i think sarah palin is the shining star for womens rights. she has the respect of both men and women.
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